DISQUS

cfzd · 1 month ago

too bad mccann is about to lose the army account by oct, 2009.

and whatever happened to the mastercard repitch that they presented several months ago? i'm assuming if they haven't announced that they've successfully defended the account and have been quietly laying off tons of mc people or transitioning them onto other torubled brands (DIAGEO) that that account is dooomed, as well.

what a shithole.

cfzd · 1 month ago

*october, 2010

stevenq · 1 month ago

r vann (why the silly name?) is a decent guy but he has won NO awards, as the bio states. creatively he's as lightweight as they come.

NY Ad Gal · 1 month ago

I guess his ADDY awards do not count? As someone who has worked closely with Vann, he is as HEAVYWEIGHT as they come. Please check your facts before posting disparaging comments.

Potatos · 1 month ago

He was a cook in the military...

MCMfromNJ · 1 month ago

Actually, he was a Public Affairs Officer, asshole!

NY Ad Guy · 1 month ago

Surprised no one has commented on the irony of his name: "Graves."

NY Ad Gal · 1 month ago

Surprised no one has commented on the irony of your name. Are you employed?

War monger · 1 month ago

He is horrible. What a sh#t.

goldoneshow · 1 month ago

This is a poor attempt at client pandering. If you were going to put a vet on the account, they should've done it while pitching or right after they won it not three years later. Plus, Army creative is bad enough without having someone who doesn't even do good work leading it.

NoNotThatAdGuyTheOtherOne · 1 month ago

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths people go to anonymously bash people on these boards. It's the modern day equivalent of your grade school 80's crank calls... Forget the fact that he voluntarily put his life on the line to defend our right to bathe in self-indulgence while shamelessly producing crap no one outside our industry wants to see anyway; but as someone who actually worked with the guy for 5 years, i can tell you the hate mail here is utterly unwarranted. He's bright, talented, and i'd work with him again in a flash. But hey, what do i know. Unlike "Mr. Self-Impressed GoldOneShow" who posted earlier, i've only won a couple silver pencils and a few bronze lions... Today's board is yet further proof that "a word to wise isn't necessary, it's the stupid people who need the advice." Bash the agency. Bash the client. But don't bash those who don't deserve it.

Agreed · 1 month ago

So why not post your name then anonymous lover?

teelynnlloyd · 1 month ago

I knew Vann waaay back in the day at BBDO and he's as good as they come: nobody had a bad word to say about him. Stevenq should Google him, check his awards (and community involvement) then do the same for yourself. Personally, he's always wanted to serve his country and even though I never understood why, I'm glad he did and that he came back from his injuries to kick a$$ in advertising. By the way, the joke about his last name is in VERY poor taste...

Just so you know, I'm posting under my real name, lest I be called an "anonymous lover"

Movemaker · 1 month ago

So many of these comments are so full of it, save the few near the end. What's particularly annoying is that many of the most disparaging comments are probably from people who barely even have a wooden pencil in their trophy case, save a legit award. And anyone who really knows the ad game knows that the awards someone has won or the work they've produced never necessarily demonstrates what they are capable of. So many factors influence what one actually ends up seeing produced.

As for attacking Vann's character and responsibilities in Iraq, the public affairs he did focused on critically-wounded soldiers. Couple that with the fact that his Humvee was actually "hit," and you've got someone with real balls, not "hide-behind-a-computer-under-an-anonymous-name-and-talk-smack-like-some-Call of Duty-video-gamer" balls.

And McCann can use him for more than just his understanding of the sensitivites of advertising for the military, so his potential benefits outnumber so-called client pandering.

C'mon people! Understand that your words actually matter, and make a difference in people's lives. It doesn't take a copywriter to know that.