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  • yikes · 11 months ago
    david & goliath's had Kia for years. not a recent add.
  • h · 11 months ago
    and cpb has a broadcast production office there, where a lot of their big campaigns are handled.

    also, goodness mfg is a splinter group of ex-cpb'ers.
  • skittlesnbeer · 11 months ago
    Who the heck is McElroy? I hadn't heard of them before and upon taking a look at their website, they're not full-service.

    How about 72andSunny? Dailey? WongDoody?
  • SueB · 11 months ago
    RPA full service, not just digital.
    do all the TV for honda/acura.
    lazyboy fun work.
    D&G a fun shop.
    Chiat still relevant...
  • clip ship · 11 months ago
    m&c saatchi
  • Tedward · 11 months ago
    180 LA
  • stu · 11 months ago
    And Leo / LA?

    Yes, there is one.
  • TJ · 11 months ago
    Digital New school Firstborn has an LA office too
  • DaTruth · 11 months ago
    McCann, Kovell/Fuller, Y&R, SIltaneen, Katner?
  • me · 11 months ago
    "How about 72andSunny? Dailey? WongDoody?"

    exactly. forgot ground zero, too. both pretty big shops.

    but at least the author picked up on that decade-old "Lala-land" line. how original.
  • me · 11 months ago
    also: what about BBDO west? or grey?
  • DaTruth · 11 months ago
    No Grey office in LA anymore
  • Chris · 11 months ago
    YIKES!!!!

    Well that tripe was indeed some very sloppy reportage!
    I could get a more in-depth dust-up just by scanning the
    Greater L.A. Yellow Pages!

    YIKES!!!!
  • David · 11 months ago
    No mention of Razorfish LA? They've had a Westside office for several years.
  • GetMe Outta Here · 11 months ago
    Dailey is barely worth an mention...
  • ryan · 11 months ago
    m and c saachi!!!!!!!
  • skittlesnbeer · 11 months ago
    I'm curious in this: outside of the obvious wins you read about for Deutsch, Chiat, etc. in the trades, how has new business been in the last few months for some of the aforementioned smaller shops? ie. 72andSunny, M&C Saatchi, 180
  • wakeupla · 11 months ago
    Don't forget Omelet . . .
  • Not In LA · 11 months ago
    lame.

    anonymous and radical? How about Smuggler, MJZ, Epoch, Partizan, Biscuit and a few others doing killer work.
  • u · 11 months ago
    What about that devil of a shop Caesar Migliozzi?
  • Newguy · 11 months ago
  • LA Ad Man · 11 months ago
    LEVEL Studios - Hybrid Digital / Traditional; founded in 1995.
    www.level-studios.com
  • Jamie McCann · 11 months ago
    Let me preface this statement by saying I don't recruit for Chiat/Day so I'm not obligated to say this.

    Sure, Chiat has a client line-up that would make even the New York Yankees pale in comparison: Apple, Visa, Pepsi, Nissan/Infinti, Pedigree, and the list goes on. But, that's no reason to begrudge them. In fact, we oughta thank Chiat. Pompous? Maybe. But, dadgummit, they continually hit more home runs than the rest of the town. I gotta be honest, if it weren't for TBWA, many of the other agencies in Tinseltown would have nothing to aspire to.

    Believe it or not, there are a few other agencies in L-A that twinkle from time to time. Who knew that Campbell-Ewald/LA is doing that great "Thrive" campaign for Kaiser Permamente? Kudos to you, C-E. That's just one example of having right agency personnel working the right client to produce truly memorable, breakthrough the clutter work. And, I'll go out on a limb and say, Secret Weapon has been doing consistently great work for Jack in the Box for years. In my humble opinion, there's no reason why the rest of L-A can't produce work of this caliber of work on a more regular basis.

    It's no secret that good work is the creation of great talent. And, great talent wants to work on award-winning advertising. So, if you want great work, I suggest you hire better talent. And that may require you to do more than just re-shuffling the same tired shlubs from the agency right down the street. You may need/want to consider bringing in some talent from outside the market.

    I recruit for some of the top agencies across the country. And, those firms that want to truly develop award-winning work that gets results, invest in hiring the best. And, at times, that may require finding talent from outside of their local ZIP code.

    Maybe more southern California agencies need to consider that notion.
  • Steven Sacks · 11 months ago
    Chiat/Day is this amazing place. It's beautiful inside. And then, you walk back to where the interactive department is located, and you realize how unimportant it is to them. It's nothing more than a crappy sweat shop. It's stark white and emotionless, in stark contrast to the rest of the building. They've got Flash developers and designers sitting nearly on top of each other (I'm not kidding, I saw people sitting as close together as you do on an airplane - can you imagine working in that environment?). They have no respect for Flash developers, they're third-class citizens there. They also try to negotiate salary with Flash developers over email with HR, even for their most senior positions. It's not just an unprofessional way to handle the interview process, it underscores their attitude about Flash developers. I'm certain that the "real" employees get better treatment.

    If you're a Flash developer, do yourself a favor and don't bother working there. Chiat/Day is only great if you've got a degree in advertising. You'll get to work with the real employees in the amazingly beautiful real office, as opposed to the interactive slave labor in the back area which doubles as a storage facility for old ad posters (not kidding).
  • ohkay? · 11 months ago
    interactive is completely unimportant, except for the digital shops.

    i have yet to meet a trad agency that respects its digital arm- and i've worked at a shit ton of them since 2000.
  • Deckert · 11 months ago
    You should get out more often and realize that the majority of these agencies are doing great work and surviving in a tough climate. They are full of talent and potential, creating award-winning ads and content.

    You have no right to criticize anyone.
  • Unknown · 11 months ago
    This is rad. Thanks for doing this. I work at Chiat. Exactly what creative has come out of there that is buzz worth? Apple? Apple is done by a totally different agency MAL. Gatorade? please Element 79 blew the doors off what we are getting ready to launch with.

    As far as Chiat's digital capabilities, they treat digital as a party favor. If there is any money left over from their 10 million dolor Gatorade spot, let's get some streamers and noise makers for the launch. But only if there on sale. Oh ya and don't get to many, they're just for decoration.
  • goldoneshow · 11 months ago
    Jamie McCann, you fucktard, shut your mouth and know your role. Gladhanding douchebag. Kaiser Permanente "Thrive" is shitty work.

    Unknown your honesty is refreshing. It looks like Lee finally sold out. The work on Gatorade and other brands has become super shitty. Word is they just had a 2.5 million dollar Super Bowl spot killed or shelved because it was so fucking bad.
    Good job. Chiat. Good job John Wren. Good job Pepsi. You're successfully ruining one of the most successful brands in history.

    Stu, Leo/LA closed over a year ago. At least the creative portion did. Peter what's his nuts left after the GMC Atlas debacle. They've always had an account office on Wilshire, but no creatives.
    Overall , this is some of the shoddiest and slanted reporting to date by this site. Obviusly the author works at a LA based Digital shop and by the glowing reviews they gave must work at Schematic.
    This town deserved a much better analysis.
  • anonymous · 11 months ago
    Actually, I recently had lunch with Leo LA creatives. They are alive and well.
  • agencyinsider · 11 months ago
    Ogilvy has a very cool office in some very hip up and coming neighborhood. They do tons of work for cisco. also mattel.
  • ohkay? · 11 months ago
    is there one neighborhood in any city in any state in the nation that is NOT considered "up and coming?"

    that phrase is the lamest.
  • Chad · 11 months ago
    Tapped out and bitter CEO, party of one?

    Your retirement is ready. Good God!

    Is any publicity still good publicity even when all the facts are wrong?
  • Sam H. · 11 months ago
    I actually have to agree with Jamie. I'm new to the LA market and I have to say the scene here feels kinda isolated and almost a bit inbred--at least in the digital space. There are really good people here but after a while a lot of the work becomes predictable and definitely identifiable as something from LA. It happens when you have the same people rotating through the same list of clients year after year. There are obviously exceptions, but as a general tone of the city, its true.

    I think that one of the results of that is, while there is an amazing collection of visual and motion designers here, the strategic side of the (digital) agencies here hasn't developed in pace with the rest of the rest of the country. This could cause competitive issues as local shops come onto the national stage for larger accounts.

    As for the article, I do think there are some big ones that have been left off the list--I'd definitely be interested in watching this evolve as more people contribute.
  • Non-Believer · 11 months ago
    "Ad Agency CEO" author....read...out of work freelancer sitting at home in his bathrobe with a website he built claiming he runs an ad agency. Such a joke. Rubbish, all of it.
  • Christian · 11 months ago
    Oh yeah, go hire out-of-market "SHLUBS" from far-flung fields.
    Throw them in some gang-ideation and: BADA-BING BADA-BOOM,
    VOILA! That should fix it!

    This advice comes from a recruiter?

    Advertising agencies that are reliant on such nascent counsel
    are committing consensual HARI-KIRI! Little wonder that our industry is in a
    death-spiral?

    Couple that with the fact that the average home price is $450.000 for a starter
    in Van Nuys. Meanwhile in Denver/Dunedin/Dallas that same home goes for
    around $150.000.

    What laggard would make that move?

    Not the kind of wunderkind that I'd choose to hire?
  • not you · 11 months ago
    Jack in the Box is the only mention as something great. This article must be written by the only creative Dick there.

    And this town is challenging because it is filled with hybrid employees. Those who claim they can run anything because they're writers-developers-directors-account people, all in one.
  • Reality Bites · 11 months ago
    Well, this is interesting. To say the least. I mean you don't have one good thing to say about anyone. Are you the disheartened, sucky agency CEO or what? I bet you run your own shop out of your house. Man, wake up! These places have been around for years, through thick & thin and by the way, news flash they aren't going away that easily. I've worked for plenty of big agencies and studios. I might say you missed some key ones too! But this is just you being the Rush Limbaugh of the creative world. Nothing good to say...just bitter criticism. Here's some advice. Get a job...at one of the agencies listed above.
  • jason k. · 11 months ago
    LA creatives are just hacks that can't make it in NY. Sorry ya'll, but people in LA who have talent go into the movie biz NOT advertising.
  • C.V. · 11 months ago
    Oh really?

    I guess Lubars fooled the brass
    (what's left of them) at BBDO into BRASS RING.

    Harvey Marco buffaloed the herd at JWT
    into a hefty gig too?

    N.Y.C. appears to turn Left for help?
  • slaphappy · 11 months ago
    Pretty depressing review. LA must suck.